Element ELST5016s review: TV input lag, deinterlacing and upscaling using the piLagTesterPRO

This is a 1080p "smart" TV from 2017. While it's not a standout in any dimension it does everything well, and is a balanced choice for gaming, both modern and retro. The lag is much better than average, and the upscaling is also better than average. It's smart functionality is a bit mediocre, but that's not why you are here, right?

Image quality

Good upscaling is critical for retro gaming. Ideally, all pixels should appear equally sharp and bright (no aliasing), and angled lines should appear smooth, with no jagged, irregular steps. Also important is that the display shows most or all of the pixels it is sent. Often, this is not the case, with some number of pixels cropped from the bottom or top edges. Shockingly, these tests are relevant for modern gaming as well, because even at their native resolution many TVs have aliasing and cropping.

I attempted to adjust the set to minimize cropping and aliasing. On this set scaling and aspect ratio are combined under a single option called "aspect". Your options include a couple way-zoomed-in modes, a just-scan option that does zero cropping but always uses 16:9, and two moderately cropped settings, one 16:9 and the other 4:3. Interestingly, this TV has a somewhat hidden service menu, (press 0 a bunch of times on the main menu) which gives to-the-pixel control over cropping. But unfortunately it doesn't seem to save this over a power cycle, so I didn't use it for the report below. 

resolution quality cropping (side, top)
480p/i A. Mild over sharpening and halos, but the overall result is nearly as good as you ever outside of a dedicated scaler. 10,13
720p A. Pixels get rearranged such that a 1-pixel checkerboard is no longer a checkerboard, but most detail is preserved and there's no aliasing and no cropping. 0,0
1080p A. Even in just-scan there's a tiny bit of aliasing even though there's no cropping. Bizarre, but the effect is very mild. Possibly what I'm really seeing is over sharpening, not aliasing from resizing.  0,0
960p B- (4:3), A-(16:9). This resolution is a favorite with the OSSC crowd, but doesn't look that good on this TV. Might as well use 480p output from the OSSC since this TV does good upscaling at that resolution. 0,0



Overall this set does a good job of upscaling. No resolution is perfect but all are handled pretty well. In fact this might be the best well-rounded TV I've seen. Since it does such a solid job in all standard resolutions, the 960p results, while disappointing, are not a big deal for OSSC users, as they can just use 480p.

The display has 3 HDMI, 1VGA, and 1 yPbPr input. I only tested HDMI.

Input Lag

I used a piLagTesterPRO to measure input lag. This device sends a frame of video over HDMI and measures how long it takes to display it. This display does not have a game mode; not even a game 'color' preset. I toggled all the display quality settings and did not see a consistent effect on lag, however the tests reported are with every "enhancement" set to off.

Input Lag Test Results

I report two kinds of values. 1st response measures how long it takes for the TV to start responding (I use a 5% change in display brightness). This overly optimistic value doesn't tell how long it takes to see anything useful, but matches what other reviewers call input lag. full response is a more realistic measure of lag, and requires the display to reach 80% of full brightness. This combines both input lag and response time, and is closer to what you would actually experience in a game.

topbottom
Resolution1st response full response1st responsefull responsescan out
480i39.647.655.563.515.9
480p22.730.738.446.415.7
720p21.429.437.145.115.7
1080p21.529.537.345.315.8
1080p5028.236.24452.015.8
1080p2455.863.871.579.515.7

This set advertises a huge range of supported modes, and actually it probably supports any reasonable resolution and refresh rate that's sub 1080p60. For progressive sources at 60hz, the input lag (first response) is consistently 22ms, the response time is 8ms, and the scan out is 16ms. Deinterlacing adds 16ms. The TV also supports a number of other refreshes rates. In particular, 1080p PAL (50hz) and film (24hz) are handled perfectly, with no dropped frames or drifting lag. Interestingly, the scanout is the same 60hz rate; the TV just waits longer to start drawing until the required data has been sent over HDMI, but once it starts drawing it goes at the full speed.

The TV also reports that it can support some computer modes that refresh at 72 or 75 hz. This is both a lie and true: it still draws the screen 60hz and thus has to drop frames, but it will at least accept these inputs and display them. I would strongly advise against using these modes as the higher refresh rate in no way improves the lag.  For anybody who cares, here's the raw data for the full response at the bottom of the screen for all supported modes. It's sorted by the average drift in lag per second, so the results at the bottom are modes where the TV cannot actually match the input refresh rate.

mode name res/refreshfull response variability
dmt#83900p6038.10.02ms
dmt#47900p6037.20.04ms
dmt#16768p6037.40.05ms
cea#161080p6037.30.06ms
cea#19720p5043.90.06ms
cea#4720p6037.10.07ms
dmt#39768p60370.07ms
dmt#581050p60370.07ms
cea#51080i6053.80.08ms
cea#17576p5045.30.09ms
cea#18576p5045.20.09ms
cea#321080p2471.50.10ms
cea#6480i6055.40.11ms
dmt#9600p6037.30.12ms
cea#1480p6038.50.14ms
cea#2480p6038.30.14ms
cea#3480p6038.40.14ms
cea#201080i50640.14ms
cea#7480i6055.40.16ms
cea#311080p50440.16ms
dmt#4480p6038.50.16ms
cea#22576i5065.50.23ms
cea#21576i5065.60.24ms
dmt#8600p5646.31.09ms
dmt#5480p7242.72.18ms
dmt#18768p7542.82.82ms
dmt#361024p7541.73.01ms
dmt#17768p7042.73.65ms
dmt#6480p7542.86.70ms
dmt#11600p7542.96.85ms
dmt#10600p7242.18.25ms

Results compared to other displays

To allow quick comparison between many displays I've summarized the results across all the mainstream displays I've personally tested with the piLagTester Pro. Min lag is the time to the first response, measured where the screen starts drawing (typically, the top); real lag is the time to the full response, measured where drawing finishes (usually the screen bottom), i.e. input lag + scan out + response time. Numbers in red denote average values that can vary by up to 8ms between power cycles.

This list is sorted by real lag for each display's native resolution and max refresh rate (usually 1080p60 but some sets are 720p60, and other monitors support > 60hz).


DisplayYear made (TV?)Native Resnative min lagnative real lag480i real lag480p real lag720p real lag1080p real lagnative response timenative scan out
Dell E198FPb20081024p2.720.439.035.05.0012.70
Samsung 2494sw20111080p2.822.726.526.526.58.0013.30
Vizio VO370M20101080p2.523.683.049.047.024.35.4715.67
LG W1953T2010768p2.625.628.728.710.0013.00
Dell U2410 (game)20101080p4.026.262.228.326.526.56.0016.20
TCL 40S32520211080p6.527.360.629.027.927.76.0014.83
TCL 49s40320184k6.130.276.830.930.330.78.0016.13
Dell E2211H20141080p3.033.634.734.534.133.815.0015.57
Panasonic TH-58PE75U2008720p28.034.034.034.034.034.06.000.00
Corprit D157 (hdmi)20211080p3.134.534.934.834.633.916.2515.13
Samsung S27C23020141080p2.936.036.636.136.118.1014.97
Vizio E470VL (vga)20111080p22.039.039.039.039.09.008.00
Samsung LN32D4032012720p20.941.258.942.440.740.75.5014.83
TCL50s42320214k14.042.075.042.042.042.013.0015.00
sony XBR 43X800D20174k24.544.346.546.044.644.75.0014.83
Element elst5016s20171080p21.445.163.546.445.145.38.0015.73
RCA L40FHD4120101080p20.346.665.048.047.046.09.6816.63
Sony 40VL130 (game)20081080p22.847.366.349.047.347.39.0815.43
Philips 42PFL3603D/F720091080p29.050.084.050.050.050.05.0016.00
LG 42LC2D2006720p28.350.654.650.850.46.3015.95
Sony KDL-46EX40020101080p28.052.087.052.052.052.08.0016.00
Toshiba 40L2200U20141080p30.056.074.056.056.056.010.0016.00
Vizio E261VA2012720p19.359.061.160.459.258.925.0014.67
Samsung LN32B3602010720p37.660.062.161.860.560.18.0014.40
Samsung P2570HD20101080p37.062.062.062.062.062.010.0015.00
Sharp LC-C3234U2009720p33.064.683.666.664.615.0016.60
Samsung LN46B61020121080p53.066.082.066.066.066.05.008.00
LG 42PT35020121080p63.567.785.968.967.767.74.200.00
Samsung LN46C63020121080p54.572.190.790.388.572.310.007.63
SANYO DP507492010720p67.075.0103.094.079.075.07.001.00
Samsung HP-T425420111080p69.775.794.176.075.75.001.00
LG 47LW6500-UA20121080p66.680.7149.7149.081.780.92.2711.83
Vizio xvt4735v20111080p67.688.688.889.288.688.69.0012.00

By that standard this TV is in the middle of my results from testing TVs and computer monitors. But when compared against TVs only, it actually is quite a bit above average. And, the ranking alone hides the fact that the faster TVs are not that much faster (at most about 16ms), and the slower TVs are way, way slower (up to 40ms). This is a solid showing from a company that to-date I considered to be a purveyor of generic and middling TVs. It's deinterlacing is also pretty good, using an adaptive algorithm that produces good looking results with only 16ms of extra lag.

Conclusion

If you really care about input lag to the exclusion of all else you can definitely do better with the right TV, and of course all TVs are completely crushed by their smaller cousins the computer monitor. But this is a sold reasonable choice and I would be perfectly happy to use it as my main gaming TV.

Other models

I tested the ELST5016s, which is the 50" version. There is also the  ELST4316s, which is the same specs but in a 43" size. Frankly, I expected more size options, but I didn't find anything else in the --16s line.

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